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  • 2 weeks later...

Update on recent matters -

1. Brake squeak - Took car into Jaguar Lancaster and this time they diagnosed the need to change all the brake pads and discs...total cost circa £800

2. Damage wing mirror - JagLanc simply said they cannot repair it and need to order a new part from Germany.

 

Picked up the car on Thursday and did not really drive it. But this Sunday I noticed there was a jangly-rattling sound. So called JagLanc and they said bring it back. Took it back. They looked at it and said it is fixed. Drove off, but it was still sounding the same. Went back again. This time one of the fellows came out for the drive and agreed it was a sound that was not my imagination.

I was really unhappy.

This car is by no means a showroom car - it is an old car. But it is tight as a drum and makes no noised such as rattles or knocks. So having taken it in for a squeak, to only have a worse sound - I was really disappointed and very worried.

Anyway, this time they said they found a lodged small stone and some dust - which they removed and it did not make any sounds on the drive back.

I noticed a faint sound of the squeak again. I also noticed the judder of the chassis/frame - but unsure if it is my imagination/paranoia.

Plus, I noticed there was a rattle of the chains - again not sure where or why...but that is NOT a sound this car has ever made. Hoping it was noting but I am really paranoid.

 

This car is a car that makes no unhealthy sounds.I don't want it to suddenly start becoming a problem car, as it is a lifer for me.

Anyway, there it is.

 

As a side, I found a spares place and they very helpfully suggested I can let them find a fix for the wing mirror.

Any views or thoughts will be very much appreciated.

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Hi Amal,

Sad tale and I hope they can fix it properly.

The mirror surprises me --  sending for a part from Germany, when I am sure they can get them in the UK.  There are several good suppliers of genuine Jaguar parts, and at a guess, I would not be surprised if the spares place you called into know who they are.

Regards,

Peter.

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Thanks Peter.

Last nights drive home and this mornings were without incident. No sounds. I drove with windows down, radio off and a sense of paranoia.

I forgot to mention, I also did 6 monthly mini service.

 

All in, I am very disappointed with JagLanc. For a specialist and Jag approved specialist who charge an arm and a leg, this is not the standard of service one expects.

Still.

Fingers crossed my beloved 'Black Jag' remains in its usual good health.

 

One things - does anyone have a steering wheel that make a slightly muffled sliding sound? This is not new, mine always does. I wondered if its the norm?

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Hi Amal

Hopefully your car now stays fit and healthy!

In Regard to the noise from the steering wheel, mine does have a slight noise almost a squeak, as if rubber is rubbing against a polished surface (I hope that makes sense?) it does not bother me one bit, as its very quiet, in fact it sounds reassuringly tight, as if brand new, the noise comes from the top of column just were the dust cover disappears under the dash

Whilst on the subject of strange stuff, does anyone ever get the sensation of the accelerator pedal tapping the bottom of your foot? its intermittent, and no rhythm to it, and quite gentle, but it does feel like something is tapping the underneath of the pedal. Weird...

Regards

Steve

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3 minutes ago, Claws said:

Hi Amal

Hopefully your car now stays fit and healthy!

In Regard to the noise from the steering wheel, mine does have a slight noise almost a squeak, as if rubber is rubbing against a polished surface (I hope that makes sense?) it does not bother me one bit, as its very quiet, in fact it sounds reassuringly tight, as if brand new, the noise comes from the top of column just were the dust cover disappears under the dash

Whilst on the subject of strange stuff, does anyone ever get the sensation of the accelerator pedal tapping the bottom of your foot? its intermittent, and no rhythm to it, and quite gentle, but it does feel like something is tapping the underneath of the pedal. Weird...

Regards

Steve

Hi Steve,

That is exactly the sound - rubbing rather than squeak. If it was a squeak, it would have made me crazy. The rubbing sound is moderately soften enough to be overlooked most of the time. I am more curious about WHY it happens.

Does anyone have a technical explanation?

Is it possible to be fixed?

Does it happen on all S Types or randomly?

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34 minutes ago, Claws said:

Hi Amal

Hopefully your car now stays fit and healthy!

In Regard to the noise from the steering wheel, mine does have a slight noise almost a squeak, as if rubber is rubbing against a polished surface (I hope that makes sense?) it does not bother me one bit, as its very quiet, in fact it sounds reassuringly tight, as if brand new, the noise comes from the top of column just were the dust cover disappears under the dash

Whilst on the subject of strange stuff, does anyone ever get the sensation of the accelerator pedal tapping the bottom of your foot? its intermittent, and no rhythm to it, and quite gentle, but it does feel like something is tapping the underneath of the pedal. Weird...

Regards

Steve

I get that, especially over rippled parts on roads, it feels like the pedal is loose :w00t:, as you say ....weird 

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24 minutes ago, dattrike said:

I get that, especially over rippled parts on roads, it feels like the pedal is loose :w00t:, as you say ....weird 

Thanks David

I thought it was just me, or a very small gremlin!

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  • 2 weeks later...

Gents, the car is due back at Jaguar...again!

 

after spending over £800 the brake squeak is still there. Ever so, but there. 

 

Now, there is another squeak (not in my head...as I sprayed some WD40 there), but I noticed/heard when slowly driving in the car park. It's not a brake squeak, but when the car is moving around 5mph....a squeak, squeak sound.

What have they done...?

 

I took it in to fix a problem and came back with two new ones.

 

Any ideas or thoughts in what it could be?

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  • 1 year later...
Dear fellow Jaguar owners, 
It's been a while since I last posted.
Hope you have all been enjoying driving your lovely cars.
Been busy fair to say. I can't belive it's been two years since I acquired my beloved 'black cat'.
But also been suffering. Sadly.
All this time, to date, I have had and continue to have a brake squeak.
 
I maybe mentioned here.
 
Anyway, to summarise - 
- tried using Jaguar Lancaster -  they had at least four efforts and changed pads and discs.
- after a year with JL having failed to cure the problem, I suggested if they would be agreeable to letting me try a brake specialist. They agreed. The brake specialist spoke to JL and said they will  try out a non-Jag brake pad which they said is softer off market item. JL said go for it. This place tried another at least four times. First brakes then discs (that had much life left in them). In the end they failed and said they had no other ideas.
In all I have now spent in the region of £1k±
Brakes still squeak so much my ears bleed.
 
There is no rhyme or reason, high speed or low speed. I am a very careful driver.
 
At wits end.
 
Love the car - which is perfect in all other respect.
 
ANY advice, suggestions or referrals would be very much appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance. 
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Hi Amal, sorry to hear that you are having problems with the squeaking brakes.

Has anyone checked that the pistons are moving freely in the calipers and that the 'pins' that the calipers move on are clean and free of corrosion ?

I ended up replacing both rear calipers on my 2.5 Sport with refurbished ones due to them sticking.

 

If the discs and pads have been replaced at least twice and you still have the squeak, it suggests that there is another common factor.

I am not a mechanic but could it be that one of the wheel hub faces is out of true so that the disc is rubbing against the pad as it rotates ?

 

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Thank you for your reply and helpful tips.

 

I plan to show this thread and any suggestions made here to the THIRD place I am now taking my car too. They are an independent local garage but with a good amount of recommendations which has been established in town for over 100 years. 

They deglazed the brakes and for a day or so it was lovely. But then it returned.

 

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On 11/8/2015 at 10:18 PM, Nightwing said:

On a full tank...circa £60 I did 250 miles...how does that measure up?

Hi Amal , that doesn't sound to bad for a V8 to me , about 25 mpg . I get 30 mpg out of my V6  3.0 X-type on the motorway at a steady 70 mph with cruise control on .

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4 minutes ago, Andy X400 3.0 said:

Hi Amal , that doesn't sound to bad for a V8 to me , about 25 mpg . I get 30 mpg out of my V6  3.0 X-type on the motorway at a steady 70 mph with cruise control on .

 

5 minutes ago, Andy X400 3.0 said:

Hi Amal , that doesn't sound to bad for a V8 to me , about 25 mpg . I get 30 mpg out of my V6  3.0 X-type on the motorway at a steady 70 mph with cruise control on .

Just realised this is a old post lol 

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On 11/4/2017 at 4:50 PM, Nightwing said:
Dear fellow Jaguar owners, 
It's been a while since I last posted.
Hope you have all been enjoying driving your lovely cars.
Been busy fair to say. I can't belive it's been two years since I acquired my beloved 'black cat'.
But also been suffering. Sadly.
All this time, to date, I have had and continue to have a brake squeak.
 
I maybe mentioned here.
 
Anyway, to summarise - 
- tried using Jaguar Lancaster -  they had at least four efforts and changed pads and discs.
- after a year with JL having failed to cure the problem, I suggested if they would be agreeable to letting me try a brake specialist. They agreed. The brake specialist spoke to JL and said they will  try out a non-Jag brake pad which they said is softer off market item. JL said go for it. This place tried another at least four times. First brakes then discs (that had much life left in them). In the end they failed and said they had no other ideas.
In all I have now spent in the region of £1k±
Brakes still squeak so much my ears bleed.
 
There is no rhyme or reason, high speed or low speed. I am a very careful driver.
 
At wits end.
 
Love the car - which is perfect in all other respect.
 
ANY advice, suggestions or referrals would be very much appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance. 

Hi Amal , i had a slight brake squeal when i bought my car . On closer inspection all the brake calipers were looking rusty and tired so i had them all refurbished and painted gloss black by BIGG RED brake caliper specialists . They cost around £320 for all four, and came back like brand new , no problems since .

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