thanks for file and positive feedback but these are the things i tried but seemingly according to taggarts it need a reprogramme of sorts ,they said it was not just a case of putting in new disc quoted me 100 quid before they fix it ,i dont know what is inside dvd unit but i have a good mind to open it up and see if its a hard drive of sorts try and plug it into pc or laptop as i have all the cables to check hard drives and see if i can put disc contents straight into module then they can work for their money cheers guys will keep you informed