Hi Knightsmith, Agreed , it's a damn shame about the budget tyres, some are quite lethal. We call them TBD's (Tyres By Darwin) in our house. I've often wondered how often crashes in poor conditions, bends etc can be attributed to TBD's. There are some very decent budget tyres out there but I wonder about it when I see a tyre that would fit my rims advertised at £45.00! It just bothers me that out there, is someone in a quick(ish) car with £45.00 tyres on driving in poor conditions, who might have stop suddenly or swerve violently to avoid an incident and end up being the cause of one. I wonder if there's ever been a survey of crashes and the tyres involved?