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Tricky one. The 4.0 version of the V8 isn't for me, but it is an XKR. The later car with the 4.2 engine will also have the 6 speed XF gearbox and all of the 'ongoing' updates, but for me it is supercharged or nothing. I would try to find a 2002 onwards 4.2 XKR personally ?

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I actually own a 2015 XE 3.0 V6 'S' Massively under rated when it was available new. Goes and handles brilliantly, reminds me of the BMW E30 325i's that I used to drive. As far as I know, the Ingenium timing chain job is 'engine out', the process doesn't look like much fun when I walk through our workshop and see them in bits.

Not just poorly serviced ones unfortunately................................

The 2.0 petrol engine in a 2015 XE will be the Ford Ecoboost engine, not the JLR Ingenium petrol engine fitted to later models.

I would have a read up on Ingenium engine failures (especially diesels) before purchasing anything fitted with one.

I seem to have fixed it ! Replaced the memory switch on the door and immediately had the correct operation of the memory functions, but still no drivers seat forward and back movement with the engine running. At this point, I thought that I was still going to need to use SDD to diagnose and possibly have to replace the seat module. Then I thought, what if it has a stored fault code generated by the faulty memory switch ? Connected my code reader and, sure enough, B1B88 was showing. Cleared the code and all working fine since then.

Recently purchased a 2010 (2011MY) XFR and a very strange fault has appeared. It has the 18 way drivers seat with memory function, everything was working fine. Then the memory switch on the door started to behave in an odd way. Usual function of this switch is to press the 'memory' button, which illuminates in amber, and then press '1' or '2' to store your settings on the desired number. To recall the previously memorised settings, just press '1' or '2' So far, so good ! Now, when I press 'memory', nothing lights up, pressing the numbered buttons does not bring up the 'memory settings saved' message on the dashboard, I deduced from this that it is not just the illumination function that has failed. If I start again from scratch having locked and unlocked the car, pressing '1' or '2' causes the amber memory light to come on (which shouldn't happen) but no 'memory setting recalled' message on the dash. I presume this problem is related to the other issue that has manifested itself on the drivers seat. If I unlock the car and get in but don't start the engine, all of the electric seat movements work, if I start the engine and then try to adjust the seat, forward and back won't work. This is puzzling because 'height' and 'tilt' are on the same 6 way switch on the seat. So far, all I have done is have a look at the seat tracks to make sure there is nothing obvious that would inhibit the forward and back movement and a battery disconnect just in case. I have also tried to establish the full extent of the 'forward and back' movement that the seat is capable of when the engine is not running. This revealed a fair amount of movement in either direction before the seat stopped. When moving the seat forward, I also found that if I held the button for another 2 seconds after it stopped, the seat then started moving forward again for quite a distance (so close that I was almost pinned to the steering wheel) I know that the '2 second press' is to allow you to override the function that cuts in if the seat thinks it has encountered an obstruction or resistance. My iCarsoft reader did reveal a fault code for the drivers seat module, B1B88 'seat slide motor relay' ? I cleared it but comes back every time I try to move the seat with the engine running. Very annoying and a bit 'random' Going to plug it in on SDD on Tuesday evening but wondered if anyone has come across this before or has any ideas or input ?

I read a post on another Jaguar forum where someone had removed the speaker grille in the centre of the dashboard to gain access to the edge of the leather covering the dashboard. He then used the type of glue used to repair rubber soled shoes, syringed in 'under' the leather through a flexible, narrow bore PVC tube. Then pulled the leather tight and stuck it back down. I have bought all the bits to try this on mine but not got round to doing it yet !

Before purchasing a Jaguar fitted with the diesel engine, you need to be sure that you will be doing the type of journeys that will suit a modern diesel . They don't tend to like lots of short journeys where they don't get up to full operating temperature (this can take up to 10 minutes !) All modern diesels are fitted with a DPF (diesel particulate filter), to help lower the vehicles emissions, these can also cause problems if the car is mainly used for short journeys and at lower speeds (town / urban driving) Jaguar have had some issues with the 2 litre Ingenium engines that have been used since 2015. Worth 'Googling' Ingenium engine problems, to get an insight. Some of the issues involve failure of the timing chains. A gearbox oil / filter change should be about £300-£400 (more expensive at a main dealer)

The tyre pressure label should give you the recommended pressures for 'standard' or 'fully laden', the standard tyre pressure is significantly lower than the one for a fully loaded car. Due to these two options, I think you can set the TPMS sensor warning for 'standard' or 'fully loaded' in the cars menu system ? Ie. If set to 'normal' load, it is looking for pressure readings dropping below (for example) 34 PSI before triggering the warning. If set to the the 'fully loaded' option, it is looking for pressures dropping below (for example) 40 PSI. This would be a possible explanation for the warning coming on for all four tyres once you dropped the pressure to 34 PSI all round ? I could be barking up the wrong tree but might be worth checking the handbook ?

Quick update. Still waiting for the ombudsman to rule on the £500 untraceable driver email. My car was advertised and sold on 'Copart' salvage auctions as a category 'N' (non structural) write off. There were no pictures on their website showing the damage to the inner sill and rear wheel / suspension. I will wait and see if it turns up for sale on Autotrader or Ebay ! For anyone that's interested, I have decided to replace it with a 2010 XFR that my friend is selling.

Hi all, the private plate from my X350 XJR is for sale. JG 54 XJR (I read it as 'J(A)G 54 XJR !) Currently on retention. Price is £499 including a set of legal UK plates.

On your model year, I don't think it can be permanently switched off ? It will come back on by default every time you 'start' the car. We had a customer experiencing the same issue, JLR do not allow dealers to deactivate it. It is probably classed as an essential safety feature, for type approval or some other certification ?

This thread will give you some context and there are links to other relevant threads. https://www.jaguarforum.com/threads/5-0-litre-v8-timing-chain-issues.120593/

Chain, search the forums for details of the problems that can affect the guides and tensioners on engines up until approximately 2012.

SIM card data contract is 3 years, to match the original manufacturers warranty. Data allowance was 500 mb per month. 'Ubigi' were the official providers of the SIM and data plan ? https://jaguarlandrover.ubigi.com/top-up/

Some progress ! Revised offer of £10,600 from the independent valuers, glad I stood my ground, the original offer was £7000 ! I think this is more realistic and have accepted the offer, funds in my account within 24 hours. Now waiting for the salvage company to contact me to arrange collection, pretty sure I will get emotional when it goes. Still having an ongoing battle with the insurer though, regarding the provisions of the 'legal protection' policy that they sold me. I quote from their email dated 7th March 2023: We have recently been advised of an incident involving your vehicle. We are writing to remind you that you opted for the following Policy Upgrades when you bought your motor insurance and may be eligible to claim off one or more of them: Motor Legal Protection - covers you for £100,000 of legal expenses to recover compensation for personal injury and other uninsured losses (such as your excess) in the event of an incident that is not your fault, as long as there's a reasonable chance your claim will succeed. It also covers you for a £500 payment if you're hit by an uninsured or untraced driver. If you are looking to make a claim on your Motor Legal Protection please call ------------- The wording appears unambiguous to me, the driver fled the scene, we have no registration number, the police have been unable to secure a vehicle identification from CCTV footage, therefore, he (or she) is 'untraceable' I have politely requested my £500, they have then attempted to pass the responsibility to a third party company that underwrites the policy and tell me that my request has been declined because there is no 'third party' to claim from. I less politely pointed out that, surely, this is the textbook definition of an 'untraceable driver' and that their own email alerted me to the fact that I can claim in these circumstance, furthermore, I was sold the policy by them (my motor insurance provider) and that any dispute regarding the payout is between them and the company they have chosen to farm the policy out to, rather than an issue that involves me. Every time I call the insurer, I get someone different, invariably 'working from home', who then tells me that this particular bit of motor insurance claims is not within their field of expertise. Can't help myself and then have to ask 'why are you answering the phone for the claims department then ?' Now waiting for 'a manager' to call me on Monday, having had to forward them their own email to reveiw the content ! Only £500 but for me, it's the principle. My personal theory is that this email is a generic one that goes out to anyone who makes a claim and has legal protection 'flagged' on the system, and has probably not been amended for years. I am betting that in the past the policy did cover 'untraced drivers', but the current provider does not offer this benefit ? Just a minor bit of mopping up really, I consider that I have already won the war. Now to decide what to do next ? Another X350 XJR ? X150 XKR (4.2) ? XFR ? or............................. Audi RS6 Avant 4.2 V8 Bi-turbo (a fast wagon would be handy and the only Jaguar equivalent is the XFR-S Sportbrake, very rare and way above my budget)

Thanks everyone for your input and best wishes. Sues back pain is currently manageable and does not seem to be getting any worse. The X-RAY's thankfully showed that none of the 'iron work' have moved. Not had any updates from the police, as expected. Any CCTV footage that might have identified the vehicle is likely to have been overwritten by now. Waiting for my insurers chosen 'independent valuer' (surely a contradiction in terms ?) to contact me. The car is on my driveway, I have the other two Jags to drive plus the company one, so no urgency on my part to agree a hasty settlement. If I am not happy with the final offer, i will suggest that we get an 'independent valuer' appointed by me (fair's fair ?) and pay for an inspection from one of the Jaguar Drivers Club experts. There is a lot of cash that would need to be spent to get the car back to 'pre-accident' condition, whilst I love my car (it was my 50th birthday present), a 'money no object' rebuild is not on the cards.

Thank you, I have spoken to a few people regarding repairs to a proper standard. It just isn't viable to pay to fix it, there is too much damage requiring expensive parts and a lot of labour. One well respected repairer that is used by my fellow members of JDC Area 18 has viewed the photographs and said that he would not even take on the work.

Thank you Julie, my wife Sue is still experiencing some discomfort / pain but it could have been much worse. We have been a couple since we were sixteen, so I was around when she had the spinal surgery. I can still remember the specialist telling her that she would never be able to participate in any active sports or pastimes, as one jolt or impact in the wrong place could leave her paralysed. With regards to the car, I think if I were to buy it back, the repair costs could be horrendous due to the nature of the damage. I have spoken to the insurers today and they are now passing the valuation over to an independent company. Will have to see how it goes !

On the way home from our Jaguar Drivers Club meeting on Monday, a car came out of a side street less than 1/4 mile from home at speed and ran into the passenger side of the XJR. To add insult to injury, after pushing us across the road, he proceeded to flee the scene without stopping ! It all happened so fast that I couldn't get a registration number or even a definite make and model for the car that hit us. My wife already has back problems after spinal surgery in her teens, she is suffering from more lower back pain than usual and has had to go for an X-ray to make sure that the metal rods in her back haven't been dislodged. We reported the incident to the police immediately, but as usual you just get a crime reference, I have suggested that they check for CCTV footage in the area. The impact was on the back edge of the front door, runs down the rear door and onto the wheel arch, the rear wheel also took the impact and is now 'toed in' by about 40mm. I will not name my (well known) insurance company for the moment, I have all three of my Jags insured with them. I have been absolutely appalled by their claims process, I called the claims line and explained the damage to the call handler, he immediately said 'that will be a write off, I will pass you through to the right department and they will make you an offer' When I asked about sending out an assessor to look at the damage, I got the response 'well, it's a 2004 car and it will need at least both doors so it's bound to be a total loss' I wish I could say that his assessment sounded like it was based on years of experience of repairing Jaguars, but unfortunately it sounded like the only experience he had was posting on Twitter ! When I persisted in asking for an expert to examine the car, I was told ' we don't send out assessors now due to Covid', when I forcefully explained that there have been no significant Covid restrictions for over a year and that this was just a cop out, he had no sensible response other than 'it's our policy' I requested that I could at least send images of the vehicle to assist with the decision whether to repair or write off and was given details of how to upload images and evidence. The insurance companies claims portal allowed me to upload as many images as I wanted, I also sent over screen prints of every X350 XJR currently for sale on Autotrader, Ebay and Pistonheads, just to make sure I made them aware of the current market prices. They immediately sent me what looks like a 'generic' email, stating that they have decided that my car is a total loss and that they will be instructing a salvage company to collect the vehicle (to avoid them incurring storage costs) The only saving grace is that because the incident occurred so close to home, I was able to limp the car back onto my driveway, therefore there are no storage costs. I responded to their email and confirmed that the vehicle will remain in my possession and that I will retain full title until we reach an agreement to the valuation. As usual, insurers try to base the value on the suggested 'retail' prices from Glasses Guide and CAP Black Book (I already have access to this information as I work for a Jaguar Land Rover main dealer) The issue is of course that there are very few 2004 '54' plate XJR's for sale at any one time, therefore the trade guide valuations are, at best, a guesstimate. The current offer is £7,000 (less my excess), my car has just under 103,000 miles, full history and was in fantastic condition prior to the accident. I spent months looking for the right car, it was my 50th birthday present to myself. The closest equivalent that I can find for sale anywhere, privately or with a dealer, is up for £10,450 at this moment in time. There are of course crazy lower mileage cars, mainly Japanese imports that are frighteningly expensive, the £29,995 8,000 mile Super V8 is just one example. I am obviously ruling out these 'unicorn' cars but think that the current offer is not enough for me to replace my car on a 'like for like' basis. As far as I am aware, the whole point of insurance is to put you back in the same position you were immediately before the accident, in this case, the only way to do that is to payout enough to replace the car with as close as possible to an identical vehicle ? When I sent them a long but polite email stating my case and offering to discuss the matter with their loss adjuster (or whatever they are called these days), they have immediately escalated the matter to a customer complaint, which buys them up to 8 weeks to respond under FCA guidelines. An interesting loophole is that, because so far neither we, nor the police can trace the other driver and vehicle, it is not classed as being hit by an uninsured driver ! Therefore, we cannot make any kind of claim against the central insurance fund that is set up for this purpose. Any thoughts, sympathy, input, or details of any cars for sale that tick the right boxes are gratefully received.

Hi Joe, The 'J' rated Pirellis are XL rated and still have issues. I asked the question previously on one of the Jaguar forums, I seem to remember a chap from Detroit had replaced something like 6 tyres in his ownership for the same reason. 20's don't seem very common on XE's, so noy many forum folk to compare notes with !

I have owned my 'personal' V6 'S' for almost 4 years and have only covered about 6,000 miles. In that time I have had to replace 5x tyres due to 'bulges' on the sidewall, Prior to that I had three of the same cars as my company vehicles, the two that had the same 20" wheel and tyre combination also had to have tyres replaced. The one I ordered with the 19" alloys and Dunlop tyres was fine. All of the tyres are the correct 'J' rated Pirellis, I don't drive up kerbs or hit the sidewalls against anything. The tyre failures would appear to be from the usual potholes and bumps that you find on UK roads, obviously I avoid any that I can, but sometimes you have no option if you don't want to swerve onto the wrong side of the road ! I even sent one tyre back to Pirelli for examination, as I am convinced that these tyres are 'not fit for purpose' Their response was that the sidewall bulge was due to 'damage' (the tyre had no signs of any scuffs, cuts or marks on the sidewall), rather than a defect in the manufacture of the tyre itself. This seemed like a cop out on their part but I don't have the time or resources to take on a tyre manufacturer ! Therefore, my question is............................ Anyone else with this wheel and tyre set up and have you had any issues with the Pirellis ? Also, has anyone tried different branded tyres and with what result ? My current solution has been to source and fit a set of the (rarely seen) genuine factory option 18" rims and fit them with Michelin PS4's in the correct size and profile (also had the vehicle settings calibrated to tell it what wheel size it is now running) They look very nice, ride quality is vastly improved and the Michelins are a far better tyre than in the Pirellis, both in the dry and the wet. I do miss the look of the 20" 'Propeller' alloys however and would love to refit them if I could 'guarantee' that a different brand of tyres would not be as prone to failure. At about £1,000 for a set of Michelins, it is a bit expensive to just try as an experiment ? It may just be that the rear '30' profile and front '35' profile tyres simply don't have enough sidewall to absorb the bumps but it would be nice to know whether it is just the Pirellis in this size that are the root of the problem ?