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3 hours ago, Ash.w said:

Update 

been to stratstone jaguar in Nottingham today and they confirmed to me I had a warped brake disc, they replaced front discs and pads and rear discs free of charge without discussion, they didn't replace rear pads as they said they are not very old and had still 80% wear left so they took them out cleaned them up and refitted them, this has cured the problem. 

So far couldn't be happier with the service from them at Nottingham, I would recommend them to anybody. Nico dealt with me when I bought the car and he was really helpful with no pushy sales rubbish, and now it seems the after sale service is also very good. Big thumbs up from me 👍🏻

 

 

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Very good news Mate, glad to see the awesomeness of the UK doesn't stop at the message forums. A mate of mine from the UK cougar club lives in Nottingham.

3 hours ago, MiragePro said:

Dan, Peter, & Carole, Thanks for the cold welcome.  Would have said warm but it appears you're all in a frozen state.

Dan, It appears you are getting some pretty cold winter storms in Georgia this year.  Happy time for the 4-wheelers and not so much for Jags.

Peter, Brummagem?  First time I have heard that term.  Is it slang or have a hidden meaning?

Carole, Palm Springs has it's advantages during the winter.  It's averaging 80F here now.  During the summer it averages 118F.  Way too hot to drive in a convertible. During the summer it stays garaged.  I take it out about once or twice a month for a quick spin and it's back in the garage.  

I have had this car going on two years and have only put on 300 miles.  The top stays down all time, I do raise and lower it about once a month. Afraid of the dreadful green shower, so use it sparingly. Spent last summer replacing all the plastic parts on the engine, and next summer will do the suspension. 

Have always been a fan of British cars, with the exception of Lucas. When Thatcher was PM, she should have declared Lucas a national disaster. Might have helped save the British auto Industry.  

 

Yeah I moved to Georgia in may of last year thinking yay no more snow Im sick if cold. The first snow storm which was around christmas we built a snow man that was about 6 feet tall and the biggest of the pieces was over 3 feet thick. He was in the yard for about 5 days. Now its about 2 or 3 inches of Ice in the yard and our temp high was about 19* F today.

But hey 65 predicted for Sunday. Hopefully I can get the parts I need to fix my shifting issue before it drops back to the high 40s for wednesday

17 hours ago, toastkid said:

You don't have to be mad to join etc etc.

No you dont,,,, but man does it help!!!

2 hours ago, MiragePro said:

I have a 2002 XK8, which I am enjoying driving around with the top down in sunny California. 

Im glad you have sun i have snow in my yard in Georgia. Welcome to the board

3 minutes ago, cubist said:

So what did you call it? I started a thread some time back to capture these and reasons for same - so if you would like to contribute, please do.

Well I figure shes got class and sophistication to her so I named her Sophia. Turns out its appearently a kids cartoon so my daughters love the name.

20 minutes ago, davecox3 said:

Can you explain please the difference in drivability thanks

 

I can try but theres a few differences. Right off being from the states my terminology may be different.

Also the engine I swapped it in was a 7.0 Liter engine in a ford Pickup truck so the problems were more exagerated.

Diesel engines don't rev the same as petrol. Its a more violent jerking around of the flywheel. Where as petrol engines its a smoother rotation.

The one I changed I could put the engine in 1st gear and let out on the clutch without pressing the accelerator. It would pull off smoothly as if I had been driving a manual for years. After swapping it out. Until I got adjusted to the difference I stalled it more times then I took off. When it did take off half the time it jerked as it was taking off unless I pushed the accelerator further then I really needed to. At cruising speeds you didn't notice alot however the truck just felt "slower" if that makes sense. 

The purpose of the dual purpose is to absorb the torsional variations of it being a diesel engine. Any area where your vehicle is using Torque more then Horsepower its going to act differently because the torsional variations are going full force into your gear box.

If you're in the portion of the power band where the car is relying more on HP to get the job done then it won't be as noticable. I was always afraid it would cause added wear on the rest of the driveline

Can it be done? Absolutely.

Will it effect performance? If we're talking HP and Torque numbers on a dyno, maybe not. 

If we're talking about the aspect of how your car performs as a daily driver and driveability. Absolutely

I've replaced the dual mass flywheel in other vehicles with a regular flywheel and you could definitely tell a difference. Your engine is still going to make the same horsepower but you're going to tell a difference in drive-ability. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-mass_flywheel

22 minutes ago, Ash.w said:

yes I agree, going in like a bull at a gate will get me nowhere. The car was the sales managers company car but it had done only 200 miles in 4 months before I bought it (think they must have used it as a run around before putting in on the forecourt).

I can totally see how it could have been missed, the important thing is how they handle it and the position they take in rectifying it. 

25 miles in a month isnt even really enough to keep the brakes from getting surface rust on them. Using it that little I doubt they even noticed it especially if it was just short trips up the road like our parts guys at work do. Unless someone stopped in front of them and forced them to slam on the brakes it probably felt normal, especially if it wasnt that noticeable when you bought it. 

At this point I think your best reaction is going to depend on how they react when the time comes. 

I could see them not doing anything at all if it wasnt there at the time of purchase. But since it was, any issue involving the operation of brakes could result in a serious accident possibly even someone getting dead out of it. Even just a warped rotor is going to effect the efficiency of the brakes. So you could argue that they sold you an unsafe car. 

If they value their reputation they should fix the situation, however, since you didn't tell them at time of purchase they're going to stick by well you did something to cause it afterwards. 

As I said earlier I don't know if brakes are considered a wear and tear item at 2 months after purchase on the warranty so they may hit you for the price of parts. But I cant see paying the price of parts and labor on something that was there to begin with. I learned long ago when test driving cars, especially used cars, any sound or vibration or anything that wouldnt be in the operation of the car brand new needs pointed out to the dealer. Especially in situations like this. But also to help get the car for cheaper. Alot of times if you point out issues like hey the brakes need changed, they either sell the car cheaper or repair it and still sell the car for the same price.

35 minutes ago, Ash.w said:

Hi rooster thanks for the reply, I didn’t report it to them before as it was only just noticeable and I put it down to my driving and getting used to the brakes as they are much sharper than any other car I’ve owned. 

I think this may be down to the discretion and goodwill of the dealer but I just don’t expect to be paying for new brakes within a few months of buying an approved car from them. 

Yeah I totally agree. It shouldnt have even become an issue. For one they shouldnt have sold it like that, although their tech may have had the same thoughts. 

If you go in the dealer with a little tact and don't just go in demanding it would help. Explain to them whats going on and that it was an issue just not enough to be blantantly obvious I'm sure they'll be pretty helpful at solving the issue. If they value their customers they would anyway. If they obviously already knew and they're being rude and not wanting to fix it without charging to a ton of money, just tell then you'll put your story on every form of social media possible and leave ratings on every site you can find their ad on. Yes thats a very !Removed! way to be but, as soon as they realize the impact that will have on future customers they normally quit being rude about things. Just be nice about it first. Sometimes issues with used cars are over looked if they arent super noticeable. Totally understandable considering as many cars as some of these places deal with, and no one is going to offer up information that could lower the trade in value when giving up their car.

16 minutes ago, toastkid said:

New new cars leave me a bit cold. I feel like I'm just looking after them for the dealer as there is no real way to make them 'mine'.

Plus I'm tight!

Oh trust me I know. My wife got a 2016 honda civic in april of 2016. It took until a few months ago to finally feel like it was ours and its been in a body shop twice already because appearently people on the road cant see a big pearl white car. 

I'm thinking more like a few years old 2010-2014 ish. The newer body atyle without the new for an XKR

2 minutes ago, Ash.w said:

Hi all,

after some advice on what I should expect from the dealer I bought my xf from.

i suspect I have a warped brake disc as I can feel a stop start motion when I'm braking like the brakes are biting then releasing, this is more noticeable at slow speed when creeping in traffic or when braking harshly. I've felt this since I've had the car on 25th October but to a lesser extent and has gradually got worse.

My question is as I've only had the a few months should I expect the dealer to foot the bill and rectify this as it was sold to me as an approved used car? I doubt this would be covered under the 2 year warranty but having the car for such a short amount of time I really don't think I should be having to pay out for this problem.

the car is a 2015 xf with 31000 miles on the clock, I've covered about 2500 miles since I had it in October.

its booked to go in on Friday so any opinions before then would be really appreciated.

cheers ash.

Depending on what your waranty covers it might be covered. However, being a couple months of dealing with it, they may say that its a wear and tear item and still hit you with some form of charge. If you didn't report it to them when you bought it and get some form of documentation any legal stuff from it would end up being your word against theirs and they would just say it wasn't like that when it was sold.

20 hours ago, toastkid said:

If I can't choose I'll have to have one of each.

They are a lot of car for the money!

I seem to be having that issue with the Xtype and the Stype. And for some crazy reason I'm severely starting to like the XKR. Someday when I finally can indulge in super nice cars I'm gonna end up with all 3 in the cave otherwise known as my garage.

27 minutes ago, Old Peter said:

Hi Dan, 

My family name is the same as a Native American nation, and when I was in  Arizona, the man who ran the cafe where I went for breakfast asked me my name, and when I said Lightfoot he said "You don't look like a Lightfoot".

Lightfoot is a common name in North Lancashire.

Peter.

 

Native Americans in the UK sounds a bit like reverse conquering to me. I got snowed in when I was last in Arizona. Either Arizona or New Mexico they shut down every road out of town with police road blocks for about 5mm of snow accumulation. It was insane

1 hour ago, Carole Simpson-Hadley said:

Now then Rooster and Paul......this is written from a hospital bed as we both  tried Ron's trick with the unicycle/coffee etc etc so possibly we are not as athletic as we thought.

With regard to the fobs.......although each model has a different synch process (we recently went through the protocol with our XJ8), the principles are the same.

We should suggest that you visit each fob in turn, again remove the battery, and using iso-propyl alcohol cleaner, clean the backs of the button pads, plus lift out the circuit board and clean the contacts....you'll be amazed how much crud there is in there.  Use cotton buds or similar to apply and remove the cleaner.

Once complete and the fobs are re-assembled, take them both to the car and programme accordingly together in the car.   A visit to one of the many jag technical sites should confirm the correct protocol for the X type.

Good luck and, as always, happy growling

Let me  be the first to say get well soon.... but yeah cleaning is always good I have 2 buttons on mine that dont work. Theres something sticky on the board,( cola perhaps) I'm hoping it didn't short out the buttons although a replacememt board can be had on eBay for around 15 bucks US. 

key to this issue though is almost the same on any car. The process of getting into the program mode may change but you still have to do all remotes at once. It's a security feature. Basically if you loose a remote and then get new ones programmed, if they old one was still in the memory anyone who finds it could unlock your car and steal whatever out of it. By erasing all the remotes from memory before saving a new one to memory just ensures that someone finding an old remote cant get in a car later on. Even if it's the factory issued remote the computer sees it as new when you enter program mode

1 hour ago, R2e said:

Excuses, excuses, I am also at work, answering emails on my work laptop with my right hand while answering threads on my own laptop with my left hand while riding a unicycle up and down the stairs and balancing a mug of coffee on my head. We don't all have it as easy as you, you know  

Im trying to find the work part of that lol. Sounds like alot of play time to me

58 minutes ago, R2e said:

Is there a 'ull in the good ol' USA? With white phone boxes and a bridge over the 'umber?

I dont believe so, however according to research my family name originated from over there in Stratford

55 minutes ago, R2e said:

Who knew? A sensible American. Must be from English stock...

 

Theres a few of us amongst all the arses lol

14 minutes ago, Raistlin said:

I’ve reminded him :)

 

Awesome thank you

7 minutes ago, toastkid said:

If I can't choose I'll have to have one of each.

They are a lot of car for the money!

I totally agree. I ended up getting mine for 650 USD. When it's done and all the problems are fixed as well as doing a tune up I should still be less then 1000

3 minutes ago, R2e said:

Ha! You've got to be up early to beat me to the draw   As my T Shirt says "Never underestimate an old man with a Jaguar"! (ebay £8.99) 

Well if I wasnt at work, trying to eat, texting the wife, and answering this on a phone I might stand a chance lol

8 minutes ago, Paul V said:

Wow thank you for the immediate responses! I shall do this when I'm home this evening.

Paul

Youre welcome

On 1/13/2018 at 4:27 AM, Raistlin said:

It can all be done Dan.

Ideally you'd need a donor car for the touchscreen project.

Have a word with Denis (thejagden) on this forum. Alternatively, PM me and I'll give you his phone number.

 

I sent him a message. Being in the states I can't really call without it being super expensive.

Hmmm it appears Im too late 

9 minutes ago, Paul V said:

Hi all,

I have a 2003 X-Type 2.5 Sport. A while back the batteries in both of my key fobs died (I have one key on my set on my wife has a key on her set). I replaced the battery in mine first, and synced it with the car (key in ignition, on and off 4 times etc). My key worked fine. Later, I did the same with my wife's key, and hers worked fine. When I went back with my key, it stopped working... I synced it again, it worked, but then my wife's key stopped working. This continues. Any ideas how I can fix this so they both work?

Thanks,

Paul

Hey Paul, easy fix. You have to sync both keys at the same time. When you sync one it erases the keys previously saved. Do them both and you should be good.

Cheers 

Dan

7 minutes ago, toastkid said:

Hi people,

I'm Dave from Hull. I'll be lurking on here after getting a sudden attack of Jag-love. It has hit me fast and hit hard!

I spent my weekend browsing and test driving X and S types, and I think I have found my happy place.

Also love Range Rovers (for my sins).

Hi and welcome. I know how you feel. I just got my first Jag dec 14th. I bought a  slightly crashed Xtype 3.0 because I wanted to do an AWD conversion on a different type of car and it was really close in measurements. It needs a new bumper and some mechanical work but after sitting in it and just feeling the car I ended up in love with it. Bad enough it took me 2 hours to name it. At my house they have to be really good or really bad to earn a name. That's when they loose their Parts car status