Climate control

[stewart bowker]

S type 2001 saloon 3.0 V6 Auto petrol UK model  

After 4 weeks not using the car I find that there is no power to the complete Climate Control panel display. Im unable to locate a fuse or relay - any advise / help appreciated 

[JOE-DOT-COM]

hi

you need to remove the display and check for power at the connectors, could be a bad display

if you need wiring diagrams look here http://www.jagrepair.com/

cheers

Joe

[stewart bowker]

1 hour ago, JOE-DOT-COM said:

hi

you need to remove the display and check for power at the connectors, could be a bad display

if you need wiring diagrams look here http://www.jagrepair.com/

cheers

Joe

Thanks Joe I will have a look as you suggest

[stewart bowker]

Hi again Joe - before I attempt to remove the display panel (below my radio) is there a fuse or relay I could check first 

thanks 

[JOE-DOT-COM]

hi

wiring diagrams are above

as yours is a 2002 is it preface lift 2002 or facelift, does it have the old dash or newer dash as wiring is different

cheers

Joe

[stewart bowker]

9 hours ago, JOE-DOT-COM said:

hi

wiring diagrams are above

as yours is a 2002 is it preface lift 2002 or facelift, does it have the old dash or newer dash as wiring is different

cheers

Joe

Hi Joe

Just looked at the original docs -actually my car is 2001 

regards

 

 

[LairdScooby]

On 4/9/2023 at 7:13 AM, stewart bowker said:

S type 2001 saloon 3.0 V6 Auto petrol UK model  

After 4 weeks not using the car I find that there is no power to the complete Climate Control panel display. Im unable to locate a fuse or relay - any advise / help appreciated 

Can you alter things like fan speed, air direction (eg feet, screen, vents etc) and temperature? If so, it's safe to assume you have power to the Climate Control Pack and it would appear the VFD display has gone. However, sometimes they can "revive" themselves when the car is used and the circuits dry out again - high possibility the circuits boards have a certain amount of moisture on them.

[stewart bowker]

4 hours ago, LairdScooby said:

Can you alter things like fan speed, air direction (eg feet, screen, vents etc) and temperature? If so, it's safe to assume you have power to the Climate Control Pack and it would appear the VFD display has gone. However, sometimes they can "revive" themselves when the car is used and the circuits dry out again - high possibility the circuits boards have a certain amount of moisture on them.

nothing the panel is completely dead  

[LairdScooby]

OK, try fuse #14, 10A and fuse #20, 10A in the primary junction box. They could just need the blades cleaning to restore normal operation.

[stewart bowker]

2 hours ago, stewart bowker said:

nothing the panel is completely dead  

cant use any of the controls 

[LairdScooby]

2 minutes ago, stewart bowker said:

cant use any of the controls 

 

1 hour ago, LairdScooby said:

OK, try fuse #14, 10A and fuse #20, 10A in the primary junction box. They could just need the blades cleaning to restore normal operation.

 

[stewart bowker]

13 hours ago, LairdScooby said:

 

 

 

13 hours ago, LairdScooby said:

 

Yep #14 fuse blown  - replaced turned inaction on panel lite up for a sec then shutdown new fuse blown - so trying to look at wiring diagram to see where to start looking for a short.  Many thanks  

 

15 hours ago, LairdScooby said:

OK, try fuse #14, 10A and fuse #20, 10A in the primary junction box. They could just need the blades cleaning to restore normal operation.

 

[stewart bowker]

1 minute ago, stewart bowker said:

Should read ignition not inaction 

 

 

Ignition

[LairdScooby]

5 hours ago, stewart bowker said:

Yep #14 fuse blown  - replaced turned inaction on panel lite up for a sec then shutdown new fuse blown - so trying to look at wiring diagram to see where to start looking for a short.  Many thanks 

Good luck with that, the fault may be within the CCM so if you can, it's worth unplugging that and trying another fuse - if the fuse survives then chances are it's the CCM.

[stewart bowker]

55 minutes ago, LairdScooby said:

Good luck with that, the fault may be within the CCM so if you can, it's worth unplugging that and trying another fuse - if the fuse survives then chances are it's the CCM.

what is CCM please - Many thanks 

[stewart bowker]

Just now, stewart bowker said:

what is CCM please - Many thanks 

Ok Climate Control Module - so I will need special tools to remove from the Dashboard - Correct -

thanks

[LairdScooby]

9 minutes ago, stewart bowker said:

so I will need special tools to remove from the Dashboard

Probably not, depending whether yours is a facelift or not, you remove the two clip in panels next to the radio and drawer/cubby hole and remove the four bolts holding the radio/drawer assembly in, pull it out and you can then unplug and remove the CCM - later cars are different and i'm not sure how they come out. The small panel below the CCM also needs popping out, this houses the heated seat switches and behind it are two more bolts holding the CCM in.

You can see those two bolt holes, one near the aerial plug and if memory serves there's another pair, one each side further up.

[stewart bowker]

1 hour ago, LairdScooby said:

Probably not, depending whether yours is a facelift or not, you remove the two clip in panels next to the radio and drawer/cubby hole and remove the four bolts holding the radio/drawer assembly in, pull it out and you can then unplug and remove the CCM - later cars are different and i'm not sure how they come out. The small panel below the CCM also needs popping out, this houses the heated seat switches and behind it are two more bolts holding the CCM in.

You can see those two bolt holes, one near the aerial plug and if memory serves there's another pair, one each side further up.

 

1 hour ago, LairdScooby said:

Probably not, depending whether yours is a facelift or not, you remove the two clip in panels next to the radio and drawer/cubby hole and remove the four bolts holding the radio/drawer assembly in, pull it out and you can then unplug and remove the CCM - later cars are different and i'm not sure how they come out. The small panel below the CCM also needs popping out, this houses the heated seat switches and behind it are two more bolts holding the CCM in.

You can see those two bolt holes, one near the aerial plug and if memory serves there's another pair, one each side further up.

Excellent many thanks again - I will follow the above removal steps tomorrow morning - its now 7.45pm here in Miri Sarawak Borneo - thanks again

[stewart bowker]

On 4/11/2023 at 7:48 PM, stewart bowker said:

 

Excellent many thanks again - I will follow the above removal steps tomorrow morning - its now 7.45pm here in Miri Sarawak Borneo - thanks again

Ok found that the fault is with the Air bag system - isolated so now the CCM functions correctly  - I will send to a wksp to trouble shoot the Air bag circuitry  - New topic -can you please recommend a supplier for such things as ABS sensors internal external trim etc  - thanking you once again for all you assistance / Help

stewart