Doors and locking

[Russ68]

Hi all,

The locking and doors on my S-Type have been something of a bugbear since I've had the car and I wonder what I'd need for a complete overhaul of the central locking and individual door locks?

Just for fun, my offside rear door is now jambed shut, presumably locked. Remote fob and interior door lock / toggle have no effect and the exterior and interior handles do not open it, so I wonder if there are any tips or cheats to let me get it open so everything can be stripped back and sorted?

I haven't explored it exhaustively, but wonder access can be gained around the interior handle or if anyone has bright ideas?

Thanks in advance 

[Claws]

Hi Russ

Could you remove the rear seat, and then possibly remove the door card? just a thought

regards

Steve

[rd350ypvs]

Could be the drivers door module that is faulty

[Russ68]

Thanks both 

I've also got an issue with the windows (actuators?) in both rear doors, and while fiddling around with this yesterday, I dropped the window on the offside, and with some manipulation, managed to get the door open. The window glass has now dropped into the door, but I'll strip the panel off and have a look inside to get it out. 

A slightly weird thing I noticed was that all my car door locks are operated by the passenger door toggle switch not the drivers side, which only operates the drivers door. Do both front toggles operate both doors on the X200 or are mine faulty in some way? The doors and windows are an irritation in what is otherwise a good car, so they need attending to and sorting!

So if Andrew is right, this could also well point to the drivers door actuator being at least part of the issue 

[Lazlo Woodbine]

The driver and passenger front door switch works all the locks on mine.

I don't entirely trust my central locking either. I left a punk gig and went to the Jag (now that's punk) opened the boot to change some CDs, closed the lid and the alarm went off and all the doors locked. l had put the key down in the boot and forgot to pick it up again, that was a fun night..

The other week I dropped my wife off and hopped out to get her bag out the boot. Key in, engine running. She closed her door, I closed the boot and when I went to get back in I found the whole car had locked but didn't arm. The dog was in there and we were twenty miles from home. Thankfully the windows were open so I just reached in and unlocked it, it would have been smashed window time otherwise.

Now I make a habit of never leaving the key in unless a window's down. I haven't been able to make it lock itself erroneously by trying, it just seems to be a rare random occurrence.

None of that was any help was it!

 

[Lazlo Woodbine]

It would definitely be worth getting that switch working what it should before looking elsewhere.

In case you haven't dealt with those rear door windows before I'll tell you about them; The glass sits in a short channel which is part of the regulator. There is a hole of about 1/4" though the sides of the channel and a corresponding one in the glass. There's a two piece plastic plug that passes right through to secure the regulator and glass together. The big piece looks like a roll pin and the smaller piece pushes inside of it to swell it and make a tight fit. Make sure the small piece is well in there or both will fall out and cause mayhem, I know.. There should be a small round black sticker on the inner skin of the door covering a hole which will line up with the hole in the channel of the regulator when it's about halfway up. It's not very generous but short of a hole-saw it's the best you'll get.

[Russ68]

Hey Laz,

Thanks for both posts, for the 1st one good to know I'm not the only one having trouble with the locking! Mine is even more random and problematic than yours by the sounds of it, but glad you resolved your issues with gigs, dogs and the wife to no ill effect! I love a bit of punk myself and currently have some Rancid in the CDC.

I had to have the speed locking disabled on mine or I'd probably still be stuck in it now! Plus great to confirm that my inside driver door toggle and the actuator it presumably connects to is definitely at fault. That's a good place to start, so I will attend to that. Fleabay suggests from £20 for 2nd hand and add £100 for a new lock actuator.

Thanks also for the 2nd post re the window, spot on! I was in there this morning hoping I could manually pull the window up through the channel, but no go! It seems to jam when showing an inch or so externally. There is nothing above it so it must be jamming down the bottom around the plastic clamp and channel. The wire is out and the white clip that fits around the hole in the glass looks damaged.

As I left the car indoors on the shop floor this morning I had to make a temporary repair with some clear PETG, just so I could park her outside and use the inside space again. I didn't want to rush it and strongly suspect this is the first time that panel has come off. Other than the described damage, looked pristine in there.

Cheers, Russ