Old Peter

Much appreciate all the responses from you guys. The car is booked in for this Friday at the main dealer.

I too had the old 'S' button engaged and locked in 2nd gear for 25 minutes (58mph) but the DPF message wouldn't play ball and continued to display. However I have to admit with not being a mechanic or having an awareness of what could happen with these sophisticated diesel engines I have learnt a great deal from the experience - I just hope a new filter is NOT required to rectify the problem ££££.

Strange isn't it that the salesmen never make you aware of the possible shortcomings.. 

 

Cheers All...Mick.

Hi Mick,

When I bought my S type, the salesman did mention the DPF.  I had also seen an article in a newspaper that a driver of an newish XF was told by the main agent that he drove too slowly which was the reason why his car was continually going into limp home mode.  I also knew a mechanic [in the sixties] who used to work for MANWEB --Electricity Board  -- that when a certain lorry came in for  routine service one of the mechanics used to take it on to the Chester by pass to give it a good hours blast as the particular driver never went over 30 mph.

I am possibly a traditionalist but I do believe that when a good engine is built it has been made by experts and needs little or no improvement.  The 2.7 diesel engine used by Jaguar and Land Rover was designed by Peugeot and Ford as a joint venture and is a rather splendid piece of machinery.

Regards,

Peter.

I had my S Type for two years and loved it.

 

Get some Mozart, Dvorak (New World symphony) or similar on the CD, crank up the volume and drive a few country lanes at around 40-50 mph.

There's nothing quite like it.

 

Roy.

Roy, Elgar when in Worcestershire is very fitting, too.

You are correct, Roy.

I would never advise to remove the DP filter, or by pass the EGR valves.

Keeping them clean is not that difficult.

Welcome to the Club, Chris.

The S Type is a great car and I never get fed up of driving mine.

Regards,

Peter.

Peter,

 

Don't know much about devil's fuel vehicles but from what peeps say they seem to benefit from "opening up the taps" from time to time .

 

ATB,

 

Trevor

Yes, Trevor, a good blast occasionally does help.  One of the things you have to do with cars which is enjoyable.

Peter.

Wynns produce a DPF cleaner which you can buy at Halfords for £9.99 for a 325ml bottle. Just a fuel additive.

The Discount Card will get you 15% off.

Peter.

Peter,

 

Would Mick benefit fro the Terraclean thing that you suggest to a lot of peeps?

 

ATB,

 

Trevor

Trevor, 

The Terraclean cleans up the engine, glow plugs, injectors etc, and I am also told that the EGR valves will benefit too.  I do know that there is also a service which will also clean out the DP filters.

I had a problem with the EGR valves which I appeared to rectify by a few miles and a blast with the "S" button pressed down.  As Roy says, the message disappeared the next time I started the engine.

But the big issue with the DPF is prevention rather than cure.

I will check on the service that regenerates the DPF and get back.

Regards,

Peter.

Hi Mick,

I am guessing that it is a reset that is required.

I don't know what the cost of having the filter cleaned, but I do believe it could be worthwhile.

I have a little chore that I do at least once a month  ---   Taking my S Type [2.7D]  out for a 40 mile run --  it just needs to be over about 35 mph about once a month, which appears sufficient.

My neighbour has a Mazda 6 that kept dropping into limp home more when he was coming back from his house in France, so he a DPF removed after several such experiences.

Regards,

Peter.

Good advice re the DPF,  Roy.

I had my 2.7 D Terracleaned a couple of months ago and I am now getting just over 32 round the town , and just over 40 on longer runs with 49.2 mpg achieved on a 70 miles run with only 20 miles on the M6.

I read that article Trevor, and sighed with relief that the only time I use the car in London is when we visit our daughter who is eel outside the congestion charge area.  The emissions test on modern diesel is quite stringent, and it is the older ones --  vans and lorries -- which cause Boris to cough.

Regards,

Peter.

Welcome to the club, Roy.

All I can say is "WOW!'

Trevor will talk to you about Aston Martins.

Regards,

Peter.

Hi Trevor,

The absence of spare wheels is an annoyance to me.  My last Jaguar had a spacesaver, but this one has a proper spare wheel on a matching alloy wheel, which is good, although the design needed to accommodate it does reduce boot space which is surprising small for a big car.  The rear wheel drive also contributes to that as well. 

But I am not bothered about that, as I really enjoy my S Type.

Regards,

Peter.

Hi Trevor,

Some models of cars seem to get stone chips more than others, and whiles it is not how they are driven but often how the cars coming towards them are being driven.  I have had in the past two smashed windscreens caused by cars coming towards me throwing up stones on roads that had been recently surfaces.

Slightly off topic, our roads are a bit less busy  --  it often takes 30 minutes to get into the town centre -  just two miles - between 8.00am and 9.00am.  But wheile they are all down in the West Country it is much easier.

I am always up early, Trevor.  Every month I have a day more of life than those who don't get up early.

Regards,

Peter.

Interesting discussion.  Stone chips are a bit more than an nuisance to drivers who like to keep their their car bodywork in good order.

I have also got a car with Indigo metallic paint and also get annoyed with the white undercoats.  They use white for all cars as the paint experts think that they should have a lighter colour than the paint finish.

My car has had paint protection applied expensively by the dealer, and fair to say, does a good job, but does not want to allow chips to be repaired with a paint pencil.  Maybe, Amanda, you car has also had that application done in the past.

Regards

Peter. 

Nice car, Michael.

I am pleased you have got the car you want.

Now enjoy it,

Regards,

Peter.

Welcome to the Club, Stephen.

The jaguar experience is quite unique, isn't it?

Keep enjoying and any help or advice just ask as there are lots of knowledgeable members.

Regards,

Peter.

Hi Amanda,

The car seats look good.  They are the same colour as my x type, so ​ I think I will try the same product.

Peter.

Good post, Richard.

I am hoping that an understanding will build up concerning the good towers and the once a year ones, [with a badly loaded caravan, towing with an inadequate car and no idea of road etiquette]  and the problems that the bad drivers who drive in a belligerent manner cause to both caravans and lorries.

Regards 

Peter.

Welcome to the Club, Steve.

You will enjoy your S Type.

I know Buckley quite well, having worked at Shotton in its heyday when there were 13,000 employees.  We lived in Shotton before I emigrated to Derbyshire in 1971, and then here is the West Midlands in 1982.

Regards,

Peter.

Welcome to the Club, Darrell.

I am no engineer, but from what you say it could well be a sensor telling the ECU the wrong information.

I am also curious as to why someone would want an LPG conversion on a fairly economical Jaguar, and wonder if something has been disturbed when it was done.  If the conversion  has a warranty I would be inclined to check with the company who did the conversion if all is well.

Regards,

Peter.

Welcome to the Club, Andrew.

Squirt a bit of WD40 down there  -- always worth trying and quite cheap.

Regards,

Peter.

A test is a good idea, Trevor.

There are towing courses run by both Caravan clubs.

Peter.

There are drivers who are frustrated by caravans, and similarly Caravan owners who are frustrated by some other drivers, so I am inviting some measured comments which I hope will assist all drivers to understand both groups of drivers.

I towed a caravan for 20 years, until my wife decided that I was too old to still be doing the fetching and carrying that goes on with a caravan holiday.

I will start with what most caravanners know. which is the fact that the caravan you want to tow should not exceed 85% of the kerb weight of the car you are using to tow the caravan, and also the craven should be loaded with heavy items over the axle, and the downward pressure on the tow bar  must not exceed the manufacturers specifications.  A specific check of this can be done with ordinary bathroom scales.

Failure to do this will cause the caravan not to handle properly, and cause accidents, possibly overturning when driven too quickly.  An overturned caravan has been known to frustrate some drivers.  Also a car towing a caravan that is too heavy for it will not go up steep hills, and  will  not go down them either in one piece.

Then there is the speed at which caravans travel.  Caravans are usually limited to the same speeds as lorries.  On a motorway, 60 mph is their limit, and on motorways they are not allowed to use the third lane. Country lanes do cause a problem, and the discerning caravanner will avoid them whenever possible, and a half hour's perusal of a map will always produce the best route which not necessarily will be the shortest.  There is also the time of travel.  Starting your holiday on a Tuesday or a Thursday are usually the best days, and starting between 10.00 am and 11.00 am are the best times as the motorways are at their quietest on those days.

There are some caravanners who do not appear to know these basis items.  There are also some drives who don't either.  Usually these drivers have a mindset that compels them to try to overtake a caravan whatever the circumstances, overtaking, then cutting in, and then turning left [or right on a lane] causing the caravan to brake and often starting a jam which is blamed on the caravan driver.

I hope that these few comments will generate a good discussion, and I look forward to caravnners and drivers who don't tow to fully particate.

Regards,

Peter.

Hi Trevor,

I have like the XK ever since it was built, with the only drawback for me being the limited seating in the rear.  As a Sports car, its looks and performance are absolutely superb, and in my opinion, the XK is a real successor to the E type.

As for the problems in Devon, and probably other areas similar in the holiday period, I have started a topic in "The Lounge" which I hope will serve as possibly an avenue for non caravan drivers to specify the problems they can have with Caravans, overladen vans and lorries, and horse boxes, and also for caravan owners who find the Jaguar a very good car with which to tow a caravan to express their towing experiences.

Regards,

Peter.

Welcome to the club, Nigel.

If the battery is OK, I would be inclined to check the fuses and the connections.

The easiest to get to first are the best options.

Regards,

Peter. 

Welcome to the Club, Lance.

Jaguar might have stopped building the XK, but I think that this future classic will be around for some years years for people to enjoy both driving and admiring.

Regards,

Peter.